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November 08, 2006

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Dr. Samuels

Hey doc, Can you post some more information on the healthcare savings plan. Is it a regular account or what?

Do you or anybody on this board know anything about care credit. How does it work? I heard that it's perfect for people with no insurance.

Jack

Yup, my dad is a doctor and he complains about the HMOs all the time. He always say that they make it hard for you to treat patients.

Tracy

Hello Dr,

What is your take on an MD/DC practice?

Steven L. Vanden Hoek, D.C.

RE: DR. Samuels - (please forgive the spelling errors)

HSA (healthcare savings accounts) are a combination catastrophic healthcare policy and tax free savings plan - very similar to an educational savings plan. These type plans are provided by your health insurance agent and go something like this. You get a BCBS policy with a $1,500 Deductible. You're premium is much lower because of this high deductible, you can then take the savings from the lower premium and put it into a savings account which you then use to pay for any care you recieve. Some programs even have checks or debit cards you can use which pull the money directly out of the account. The money you save earns interest, and unlike a cafeteria plan does, continues to collect interest year after year. In addition you don't loose the money at the turn of the year either.

In addition, you can spend this money on any healthcare, which means you dictate what is healthcare you want to recieve. Herbs, acupunture, massage, chiropractic, medical, drugs, etc.

If you do spend 1500 in a year, the insurance then starts up, usually at about 80%.

I have seen several reviews on these, and it is a government initiated program, so you should have easy access to info with a phone call to an insurance agent.

Good luck.

Steven L. Vanden Hoek, D.C.

RE: MD/DC?

The concept is great, the execution is usually poor.

I have had the pleasure of watching my father implement an DC/MD, DC/PT, DC/FNP, and DC only practice. They are hard to run ethically. This is because most MD/DC practices are set up for one main purpose - higher collections. For these docs they think getting paid is a game that you have to play. They use the MD to do initial exams and order therapy - the reality being that they aren't needed. While Chiro's don't normally see any error with this, let's look at this differntly.

This would be like a radiologist highering a family physician to work in his office so that he could have them order radiology studies for his business. Most people would shake their head at this idea, just as the Feds shake their heads at us. Really, we don't need an MD to preform an exam for us, we don't need them to treat our patients, and we don't need them to refer to others. This usually means we need them for money.

Now, having an MD work in your office to provide medical care is ethical, and a smart business decision. Having an MD work in your office for to justify chiropractic and make more money on these servcies is not.

Call me skeptical, but most docs I konw didn't bring in the MD for the patient, but for the pocket book. And yes, money is important, but when your motive is money, everyone wants a piece of it, and you become suspect to those you don't want to mess with.

So in summary - I don't like MD/DC clinics unless it is so two distinct services can be offered. I do like clinics that have MD's and DC's working in the same environment, along side each other, but not for each other. I hope that was as clear as mud.

Best of wishes.

p.s. Same goes for DC/PT - but usually not as bad as DC/MD.

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